This is
a 1981 interview done in Munich with Irene Rosenberg, daughter of Alfred
Rosenberg
Above: Irene after
being arrested with her mother, Hedwig Kramer, 1945. Her mother died the next
year.
Thank you for speaking
with me; I am understand you never talk to anyone about your father, so I am
grateful you are sharing with me. Can I ask what you remember about Hitler?
Irene:
Yes, you are a very lucky young man as I only share my experiences and thoughts
with old comrades. What do I remember about the Führer, you will understand I
was very young like you. While I was born in 1930, I had very fond memories as a
child, growing up around the inner circle, if you will. I remember he was very
kind and jovial. My father took me to visit the Führer often, and the Führer
even came to our home. I sat on his lap and read him a Grimm fairy tale book
once and he was impressed with my eloquent speaking. I met Gudrun at a party
that was held just for the children, during an important state function that we
could not attend.
He was always giving gifts
like books, pastries, or candies. I remember that. The look on his face was
always intensive listening, no matter what I was babbling he always was
attentive, and humored me. As I grew older, I would see less and less of him,
the last time was during the later stage of the war in Berlin. He asked me if I
had a boyfriend yet, and said, with a tear in his eye he was sorry the war
turned out the way it had. He seemed to be apologizing for the world that would
be left if we lost. That made such a deep impression on me; I will take it to my
grave. It showed the deep love he possessed for our people.
Therefore, while there are
many who throw scorn on him today, I saw a great man who loved his people
deeply, and was deeply loved, until forced allied brainwashing changed that view
in many.
What do you remember
about your father?
Irene:
He was a very intelligent man, who could debate with the best of them. He was a
loving father, and took care of mother and I. He encouraged me from an early age
to express myself in any way I wanted to, so I liked poetry, here is a book he
bought me to write in, and I had a typewriter, that I used often. He taught me
that National Socialism was life, it was nature, it was beauty, and all things
beautiful. Those are things of poetry, life, and our creator.
When I was young, I
remember he would come home from a day at the office; I would play with his cap,
and wear his boots. He would read bedtime stories, and later when the war
started, he would speak to me as a grownup to tell what was going on in the
world, and why Germany was fighting. This gave me comfort as many were scared
when Berlin had been bombed, I would then take those assurances to my friends in
the neighborhood. He liked cooking with my mother often, making meals like in
restaurants from around the world. He was partial to French and Russian dishes,
sometimes with a German twist. We would have lively discussions at the table,
everything from religion, history, to dance and poetry. I also learned a love of
horses; he would take me to see some comrade’s steeds, and I was taught to ride.
During his imprisonment,
it was hard seeing my father. He had been tortured, and humiliated by the allied
guards, I could see bruises and cuts on him where he had bled. The guards
harassed me as if I did not equal a human; one soldier grabbed my ass so hard he
bruised me badly. My mother was abused also. We wept for my father, knowing he
was an innocent man being persecuted like the others.
He was an early builder of
the NSDAP and the Führer regarded him as a friend, and teacher. Not many men can
have that claim.
You do not believe your
father was guilty of the crimes he was accused of?
Irene:
Absolutely not. I knew my father well, he was a very fair person who even spoke
of the Jews in Berlin who were left alone as they posed no threat, and obeyed
the law. They say he ordered the killings of people in the east, but all I ever
saw or heard was him extolling that we need to treat them as friends, and fellow
Europeans. He was born in Estonia, in a German enclave, where many Germans felt
at home. He loved the peoples in the east, he was proud of the countless
volunteers who helped us in the fight.
I knew from dinner
discussions that Jews were being moved east to get them out of Europe, however
it was clear orders were giving for them to be treated well. He commented at
times that they must be careful not to offend or cause anger from those forced
to move. I remember we even had a Jewish professor at our home who was worried
about a friend being sent east, my father stopped this and allowed him to
migrate to Sweden, even though he criticized the Führer.
My father would always
send back gifts that the people of the occupied territories would send him. If
he were so bad, would the people give him gifts? He had many. During his time in
the east, production rose, and he used German resources to help the Russians
rebuild what their Marxist masters destroyed. He was even praised for reopening
churches, and paying for the rebuilding. Thousands upon thousands of Russian
workers came to Europe, were giving education, high paying jobs, and housing.
How is that enslaving them? I know they had to claim this after the war, to
avoid being called collaborators, who would face death.
My father was a great man,
super intelligent, and loving. He was not guilty of anything the lying Allies
claimed. Many came to his defense after the war, but sadly, others turned on
him.
I read that he was very
anti-Christian and hated the Church, even wanting to remove the bible and
anything related to God. Is this true?
Irene:
This is a hard subject to talk about. First, my father started out as
anti-Christian. This was manifested deeper when his first wife died, it was
traumatic on him. He felt there was no proof of God and that it was weak to
believe in one. While I will confess that I did not know every detail of my
father’s religious beliefs, I know he changed during the war, coming to believe
Jesus was of Aryan blood.
I will start by saying
National Socialism is a European idea. Its basic beliefs are that we are tied to
the laws of nature, and he who gave these laws to us. Old wisdom says the Bible
has served Europeans for two thousand years, as Jews rejected it. NS wisdom says
the Bible has become corrupted and taken over from its original design. This is
why my father, and indeed others, took such a stance against the Bible as it is
preached today. The message inside was used as weapons against our peoples, to
destroy racial ideas.
As Gudrun knows, her
father believed as my father, and came to the same conclusion. The Bible may
have been originally written about, to, and for a people called Israelites. This
people has now been identified as Jews today. My father started to understand
that perhaps these people, who seem to bring hatred and evil wherever they go,
might not be the same people in the Bible. He understood religion had turned
into a weapon against us and many naturally revolted against it. I never
understood any of this when I was younger, it was only after it was all over I
really started to search for what my father believed.
I remember I was studying
Luther, and many others, but it raised more questions than answers. Like my
father, I turned to studying original texts of the scriptures that were
available. I always had the question if this is true then how did it happen,
there had to be a moment in time when this theft happened, but I could never
find it. One day I was reading 2Kings when it hit me like a fist. The original
Israelites were forced out of their lands and dispersed to what is now India,
China, Iran and Europe. The Ahnenerbe found European mummies with light hair and
eyes in these regions. The people who moved into the old lands were ancestors of
the modern Jew, darker features from poisoned bloodlines.
They were impressed by the
technology and spirituality of the Israelites, so they wanted to adopt parts of
their culture, and they brought in corrupt Israelite priests to teach them their
ways. After time these people usurped the identity of the old Israelites, as the
dispersed ones lost their old ways, the Jews adopted new ways blended with their
Talmud. Many years later, old Israelites started trickling back to the old
lands, which were now under the control and influence of people who were not of
Israelite blood. Christ came into this type of society, but his parents were of
Israelite, or Aryan blood.
People tend to think today
that since dark skinned people inhabit these lands that they were always there,
that is false. Jews had a hand in translating some of the Bible when they came
to Europe a few hundred years ago. They made sure words were changed, like the
word Jew; it should be Judean as it mostly describes anyone living in Judea, who
at times could be any number of races. It has become probably the most confusing
word in the Bible, by the design of evil people. These scriptures have been
translated so many times, error is inevitable, some of it on purpose.
I will close this by
saying my father was more anti modern church, but had no desire to rid Germany
of Christianity. The opposite is true; he knew this faith had become the bedrock
of all European nations and it was on this strength that we would be kept great.
He only wanted a return to the true ways of Luther, and the early Church,
without any Jewish influence.
Can I ask what the end
of the war was like for you?
Irene:
How can I describe the terror, pain, and suffering I saw? We had to stay in
Berlin as father’s officers were there. I had to endure the bombings; we stayed
mostly in our cellar, which was reinforced. There were times after a raid the
smell was horrid, I saw dead and wounded, and the screams still haunt me. These
were women and children the Allies targeted. We evacuated Berlin upon the
arrival of the Russians; the city was a shell of its former self.
We moved into south
Germany, the roads and rails were clogged with people of every nationality,
trying to get away from the evil that was coming. I met a Baltic family and I
spoke with them, they told of seeing Russian atrocities, and warned me not to
fall into their hands. We made it to the Allies, and at first were treated OK,
there was little to eat or drink however, they tended to use our survival as a
means for fornication. Many women had to endure this to feed their children.
Evil had descended upon the people.
When it was found out who
we were, the Allies arrested my mother and I. We were insulted, groped, and
threatened with every type of outcome you could imagine. I understand why many
took their own lives, and those of their children to avoid this. A guard was
actually reprimanded as he told me if I slept with him, he would help me get
away; I refused and spoke to the commander. Treatment then started to get a
little better. However, the guards were still pigs, and evil men. Their wives
would be ashamed.
We learned my father had
been moved to a jail holding important people. We were finally allowed to be
released I believe on Patton’s orders. If I remember, he came to visit us and
was appalled at how we were treated, ordering all family released, and
apologized for our treatment. We were not allowed to see father as we wanted to,
he told me to be strong, and he had to meet his fate as a NS, and would do so
with honor and a clear conscience. He was adamant that the lies the Allies were
telling would someday be destroyed.
We wept on the day the
victors of the war had their revenge on innocent men. It is a stain on those who
turned traitor, and agreed with the Allies’ claims. I know they were only trying
to save their skin, but they lost their honor forever. I, like all Germans were
forced to watch the allied movies about the camps and no one dared to speak the
truth, as we knew what would happen. A woman was crying and having a breakdown
after seeing one, no one had the courage to tell her these were propaganda films
meant to justify the allied war on us, it would have brought a sentence of
prison to do so.
What do you think the
future will be?
Irene:
Every religion tells of a time when all that we know will end, and surprisingly
they all seem to agree it will be an uprising, and then final judgment. Evil
people and ideas will be exposed and destroyed; I see it starting to take shape
now. The Jewish controlled press is promoting every sick idea, which is a good
thing. We must be able to see who our enemies are; they are now coming out from
behind closed doors. We will see in the future the clear line between who is
good and who is not. Who works for the natural health of his people, and who
seeks to destroy the natural order. These lines will sometimes blur, as the
church will become more and more corrupt, but God’s laws are on our hearts, and
will never be removed from everyone. His people will again someday come to see
who they are.
The
church praises those very people seeking to destroy the very rock on which the
church was built, this is foretold in the Bible, we took a new name, Christians,
and Jews use our old. Someday the truth will be known for all to see, and there
will be terrible accounting for those who did this to us.
